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#180399 - 11/18/08 10:45 AM Re: Logy's AT4T [Re: The Pook]
twosleepy Offline
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This reminds me of the many Americans who believe that "separation of church and state" means that it is forbidden to discuss religion, or things religious, in public schools. This is complete nonsense. It is forbidden to compel students to subscribe to a particular religion (evangelizing), but not to discuss or inform. It's also not "against the constitution" for students to gather on school grounds for a religious purpose, as long as it does not violate any laws and is strictly voluntary. :0)

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#180400 - 11/18/08 11:14 AM Re: Logy's AT4T [Re: twosleepy]
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>to discuss or inform

to discuss or inform in an exclusionary fashion becomes problematic (but now we're approaching that forbidden ground).

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#180406 - 11/18/08 03:17 PM Re: Logy's AT4T [Re: tsuwm]
twosleepy Offline
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Funny, I didn't see the words "in an exclusionary fashion" in what I wrote. Perhaps you're reading something into it? :0)

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#180408 - 11/18/08 03:35 PM Re: Logy's AT4T [Re: twosleepy]
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no; I added those words purposefully -- exclusion is what often happens in the event.

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#180423 - 11/18/08 10:20 PM Re: Logy's AT4T [Re: tsuwm]
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For example, The Pook's assertion that William James's comment is only true if God exists has as an unstated premise that a man has a true existence only if there is God to perceive that true existence. The assertion was worded in such a way as to appear to be a proof of the existence of God. Hence my claim of petitio principii. But perhaps The Pook was offering it as a reductio ad absurdum. One never know, do one?

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#180425 - 11/18/08 10:42 PM Re: Logy's AT4T [Re: Faldage]
The Pook Offline
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Not quite.

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#180438 - 11/19/08 11:51 AM Re: Logy's AT4T [Re: The Pook]
BobVVore Offline
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Registered: 11/17/08
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Loc: PST
>sigh<

I thought I was just commenting on AT4Ts that say something essentially critical about religion. It gains nothing, produces nothing. This week has another.

I wasn't stating whether or not religions were opiates of the masses. If religion is not a useful topic here (and of course a warm topic as seen already), to which I agree, then the AT4Ts themselves are suspect. I love the words. Perhaps my method bringing the AT4T to attention was wrong. There are many others far more articulate than me who can say what I wished to say in a better manner. That's why I kept it short. Hmm. and this is loong. ("since brevity is the soul of wit, and tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes, I will be brief ..." -- I follow in your footsteps, Polonius!)

Bob V-Vore

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#180439 - 11/19/08 12:16 PM Re: Logy's AT4T [Re: BobVVore]
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if you have a comment regarding AWAD itself, you should address it to Anu Garg [he seldom posts in these forums unless it is *truly administrative; e.g. regarding a software update.]

you can reach him via the Feedback link at the bottom of this page.

..or via the Contact Us link from within the daily mail, if you get that.

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#180447 - 11/19/08 07:29 PM Re: Logy's AT4T [Re: tsuwm]
BobVVore Offline
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Originally Posted By: tsuwm
if you have a comment regarding AWAD itself, you should address it to Anu Garg [he seldom posts in these forums unless it is *truly administrative; e.g. regarding a software update.]

you can reach him via the Feedback link at the bottom of this page.

..or via the Contact Us link from within the daily mail, if you get that.


We are acquainted via previous e-mails. He knows quite well how I feel. He, like many really smart people, thinks highly of his own opinions. In a previous AWAD summary, he does respond to someone's critique of an ad, responding that he wasn't responsible for the content of the ads (??).

However, this moves me to try again.

Thanks

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