#180356 - 11/17/08 06:34 AM
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Pooh-Bah
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log (n.) 1398, of unknown origin. O.N. had lag "felled tree" (from stem of liggja "to lie"), but on phonological grounds etymologists deny that this is the root of Eng. log. Instead, they suggest an independent formation meant to "express the notion of something massive by a word of appropriate sound." Logging "act of cutting timber" is from 1706. Logjam "congestion of logs on a river" is from 1885; in the figurative sense it is from 1890. Logrolling in the legislative vote-trading sense first recorded 1823, from the notion of neighbors on the frontier helping one another with the heavy work of clearing land and building cabins (as in phrase you roll my log and I'll roll yours). Log cabin in Amer.Eng. has been a figure of the honest pioneer since the 1840 presidential campaign of William Henry Harrison.
log (v.)
"to enter into a log book," 1823, from logbook "daily record of a ship's speed, progress, etc." (1679), which is so called because wooden floats were used to measure a ship's speed. To log in in the computing sense is attested from 1963.
Well,yes, the Dutch word "log" means heavy and slow but to suppose logy might come from Dutch is not logic. We use the word log in most references just like the English word, exept for in the adjective form, where we do not add the 'y '.
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#180357 - 11/17/08 06:47 AM
Re: logy
[Re: BranShea]
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Carpal Tunnel
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He did say "perhaps." AHD agrees with him, adding that it may be a variant of loggy. The y would have been added in English, so its lack in the Dutch is no argument against this proposed etymology
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#180359 - 11/17/08 09:07 AM
Re: logy
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Pooh-Bah
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Yeh,yeh, but I can't help associating it with "sleeping like a log". In the middle ages English and Dutch were so closely related and specially in the language coming from sailing, fishing ,boats and such. Well it's perhaps and sure we're nothing like the lighthearted Italians. Right: Heavy and dull, so be it. Thanks Anu  btw. I think I remember that the Dutch word "dul " in those days meant mad. The Breughel painting: "De Dulle Griet" means she is mad; is translated: Mad Meg. Mad Meg She's the larger figure in the center: you can enlarge details. How firm are phonological grounds?
Edited by BranShea (11/17/08 09:46 AM)
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#180364 - 11/17/08 12:21 PM
Logy's AT4T
[Re: BranShea]
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stranger
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Logy's AT4T
A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
I don't know if God exists, but it would be better for His
reputation if he didn't. -Jules Renard, writer (1864-1910)
I'm always a little surprised at these less-than-subtle digs at religion.
It is possible to love words, be a respectable thinker, and be religious. There are plenty of other groups to pick on: Southerners, Northerner, Mid-Westerners, Westerners, Easterners, and, of course, Californians. :-) Well, Canadians, too. Then there's the flawed Europeans. And, politicians, absolutely.
BobS
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#180368 - 11/17/08 01:15 PM
Re: Logy's AT4T
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Pooh-Bah
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It is possible to love words, be a respectable thinker, and be religious. BobS Of course. But did we not get the same Thought for Today today? "A THOUGHT FOR TODAY: Whenever two people meet, there are really six people present. There is each man as he sees himself, each man as the other person sees him, and each man as he really is. -William James, psychologist and philosopher (1842-1910)"
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#180376 - 11/17/08 07:47 PM
Re: Logy's AT4T
[Re: BranShea]
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old hand
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It is possible to love words, be a respectable thinker, and be religious. BobS Of course. But did we not get the same Thought for Today today? "A THOUGHT FOR TODAY: Whenever two people meet, there are really six people present. There is each man as he sees himself, each man as the other person sees him, and each man as he really is. -William James, psychologist and philosopher (1842-1910)" This is not unrelated to the previous poster's question, since it is only true if God exists. Think about it.
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#180388 - 11/18/08 07:11 AM
Re: Logy's AT4T
[Re: The Pook]
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Carpal Tunnel
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This is not unrelated to the previous poster's question, since it is only true if God exists. Think about it.
I would say this was a case of petitio principii but that would be edging too close to discussing religion, a taboo subject on this board.
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