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#180173 - 11/09/08 03:31 PM PC vs Mac
dalehileman Offline
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Well I finally caved in and ditched my PC for a Mac. My first impression: Mac is of course immune to viruses, while in some applications execution time is indeed faster. However, more keystrokes seem to be required for almost any task

For example, in the PC all personal taskbar editing macros in Word (that is, ones you add yourself such as Delete word, Change case, Spacebar, Backspace, Return, etc etc etc) are transferred automatically to Outlook for use editing email and the like. However, in Mac only the standard set (BIUT, align left, center, etc) are available in Entourage (Mac's version of Outlook)

Thus for the typical clod (me) editing a lengthy email in Entourage requires at least twice if not five times as many keystrokes with of course continual resort to the keyboard; whereas using Outlook you could lean back, doing much of the editing using your mouse with a single click

Of course you can always write all your letters in Word, then send or cut-paste them to Entourage. But this process excessively complicates the process as often it would be necessary to shift a draft back and forth between the two programs

I am sure there's a way to transfer those personal macros from Word to Entourage but it's no doubt a comparatively involved process and even my highly-remunerated aerospace IT offspring is unable to do it. Thus all comments appreciated, especially helpful ones--thanks most kindly
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#180174 - 11/09/08 04:17 PM Re: PC vs Mac [Re: dalehileman]
latishya Offline
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Originally Posted By: dalehileman
My first impression: Mac is of course immune to viruses,


I hope for your sake that you don't really believe that. There are a lot less viruses and other malware written for Mac OSes, mostly becausre the potential target base is so muxh smaller. As the number of Macs grows, so does the amount of malware written for it. There are some nasties out there just for Macs, and if you do trust in Mac's "immunity" you will be disappointed.

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#180175 - 11/09/08 04:25 PM Re: PC vs Mac [Re: dalehileman]
olly Offline
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Hi Dale, try this Macdisk I do suspect however that you will soon be directing your derived angst from one bespectacled billionaire to another. smile

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#180187 - 11/10/08 09:23 AM Re: PC vs Mac [Re: latishya]
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Originally Posted By: latishya
Originally Posted By: dalehileman
My first impression: Mac is of course immune to viruses,


I hope for your sake that you don't really believe that. There are a lot less viruses and other malware written for Mac OSes, mostly becausre the potential target base is so muxh smaller. As the number of Macs grows, so does the amount of malware written for it. There are some nasties out there just for Macs, and if you do trust in Mac's "immunity" you will be disappointed.


immune, no, but much more resistant, yes. the underlying architecture of the Mac OS is much less vulnerable to attacks and malware than Windows.

that is not to say that macs never have problems, of course not.

I don't use Entourage dale, so I'm no help there, but I find Mail to be a very good program. there are other possible solutions to your macro hopes. check over at www.versiontracker.com

amd welcome to the club!

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#180202 - 11/10/08 01:03 PM Re: PC vs Mac [Re: etaoin]
dalehileman Offline
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olly thank you kindly for that link. I would ensconce it amongst my Faves but in Mac I haven't yet learned how

Lat: Thank you for that warning. However I am assured that so long as you don't open suspicious files, especially attachments, that as eta says, Mac is extremely resistant to viruses and the like

eta, once more thank you for your welcome as well as your input. My very helpful, highly remunerated and competent aerospace IT No. 1 Son was unable to successfully install Mail and so I have to use Entourage, which as you must know is mac's version of Outlook

Incidentallly for every advantage of Mac there seems to be a drawback. For example, Entourage gives me an instant spellcheck in posts such as this one where Outlook didn't. However, Mac falls down in the editing department. For instance I find I am unable to highlight then drag a word or phrase and instead have to laboriously cut-and-paste

Thank you too for that link which I will pass along to my No. 1 Son in the hope that he might be able to use it somehow to transfer my taskbar macros from Word

Admin thank you for leaving this thread where it is and will therefore get more attention than if you dropped it into one of the more obscure forums
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#180206 - 11/10/08 01:33 PM Re: PC vs Mac [Re: dalehileman]
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Mail is already installed in every new mac, you just need to set up your mail accounts. I have POP, IMAP, and gmail etc., accounts in my Mail. works great. but I know of others that prefer Entourage, so, ymmv.

what does Entourage have to do with posting at AWAD? and my posts get spellchecked as I type. I can also do highlight and drag, even in the Quick Reply box that I'm using right now.

give yourself some time to learn the ins-and-outs of a new system. your are to be commended for doing so!

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#180222 - 11/11/08 12:28 PM Re: PC vs Mac [Re: etaoin]
dalehileman Offline
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"what does Entourage have to do with posting at AWAD?"

I presume it's Entourage that prevents me from highlight-drag in AWAD

" ...and my posts get spellchecked as I type."

So do mine, which is a distinct improvement using Mac over Bill

"I can also do highlight and drag, even in the Quick Reply box that I'm using right now."

That's probably because you're using Mail not Entourage, the latter surviving from Bill's domain and probably distinctly inferior in many ways

"...give yourself some time to learn the ins-and-outs of a new system. your are to be commended for doing so!"

Why thank you eta; it's rare to get a sincere complement in this iniquitous den of sidebar adversary and hotbed of mutual recrimination. Even my technically trained No. 1 Son, God love him, drags me over the coals for my near-senile inability to cope with the New World

...while my No. 2 Son, bless his soul, understands my confusion because he feels about the Digital Realm much as I do in my near-senility
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#180223 - 11/11/08 01:23 PM Re: PC vs Mac [Re: dalehileman]
etaoin Offline
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you're welcome, dale! and happy birthday? I see a little birthday cake near your name!

I use a browser such as Safari (I use Camino) to view AWAD, not a mail program like Entourage or Mail. actually, I'm not sure how you would use a mail program to access AWAD.

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#180229 - 11/11/08 02:05 PM Re: PC vs Mac [Re: etaoin]
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eta, are you and daleh both referring to Wordsmith Talk when you refer to AWAD?

-ron o.

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#180231 - 11/11/08 02:23 PM Re: PC vs Mac [Re: tsuwm]
etaoin Offline
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Originally Posted By: tsuwm
eta, are you and daleh both referring to Wordsmith Talk when you refer to AWAD?

-ron o.


good question, t. yes, I am referring to this site.

from dale's penultimate post:
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For example, Entourage gives me an instant spellcheck in posts such as this one where Outlook didn't.
(emphasis mine)

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