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#177367 - 06/13/08 10:59 AM Need some terms
shawnee6400 shawnee6400 stranger Registered: 06/13/08 Posts: 1	Are there terms, with possibly nuances, to describe a person, who by all appearances is an honorable person, does or does not believe in God, but does not have a prayer or church life, but whose morality seems to be based on the legal system and that which is generally acceptable in society?
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#177369 - 06/13/08 11:39 AM Re: Need some terms [Re: shawnee6400]
dalehileman dalehileman veteran Registered: 07/10/05 Posts: 1417 Loc: Apple Valley, CA, USA	universism? http://onelook.com/?w=*&loc=revfp2&clue=honorable+agnostic _________________________ dalehileman
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#177371 - 06/13/08 11:56 AM Re: Need some terms [Re: dalehileman]
etaoin etaoin Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/24/02 Posts: 6097 Loc: Vermont	secular humanist is often used.
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#177372 - 06/13/08 02:31 PM Re: Need some terms [Re: shawnee6400]
of troy of troy Carpal Tunnel Registered: 10/17/00 Posts: 5394 Loc: rego park	a deist (most of US "founding fathers" called them selves deist.. believed(to some degree) in god, but where not members of organized churches for the most part. a mench (a yidish term) it mean a Man.. but idiomatically, it mean a good man.. a mench is the kind of guy that marries a widow with a kid or two, has some more, (adapts or doesn't) but treats all the children equally.. (loves, provides for them, leaves them an equal share in estate..--and mever mentions that or lets on that they aren't all his biological children (but on the other hand, encourages the kids to see and keep up with their biological grandparents/uncle/aunts/cousins--he walk the line.. (perfectly!)) _________________________ my other obsession
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#177380 - 06/14/08 12:01 AM Re: Need some terms [Re: shawnee6400]
morphememedley morphememedley member Registered: 01/16/08 Posts: 137	I don't know whether freethinker, for a practitioner of Freethought, comes close or not.
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#177382 - 06/14/08 02:53 AM Re: Need some terms [Re: morphememedley]
BranShea BranShea Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 2089 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague	Agree with etaoin, seculair humanist. seculair humanism Or a good Godless person, (if you want common words) Edited by BranShea (06/14/08 03:24 AM) _________________________ above all shadows rides the sun (JRRT)
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#177383 - 06/14/08 02:55 AM Re: Need some terms [Re: morphememedley]
Zed Zed Pooh-Bah Registered: 08/27/02 Posts: 1734 Loc: British Columbia, Canada	Some old-fashioned terms would be salt of the earth - often used of farmers, builders and other blue collar workers upright - possibly a bit stiff with it worthy or man of worth - ?a bit boring? a good solid citizen - see worthy honourable - implies that he has faced a test of that honour and won dependable - and probably predictable decent - a mench as above, "no movie star but pffft, what are looks" please note, the above nuances are the opinions of the poster and may not reflect the views of this site or anyone on it. PS welcome aboard shawnee
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#177397 - 06/15/08 01:09 AM Re: Need some terms [Re: etaoin]
The Pook The Pook old hand Registered: 02/20/08 Posts: 707 Loc: Tasmania	I'm not sure 'secular humanist' quite fits the bill. That term describes someone who holds to a particular philosophy, but says nothing necessarily about their individual personal morality. There are also different kinds of secular humanist, viz optimistic and pessimistic humanist. Perhaps 'Relativist' or 'Relative Moralist'?
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#177400 - 06/15/08 01:44 AM Re: Need some terms [Re: The Pook]
BranShea BranShea Pooh-Bah Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 2089 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague	>'Relative Moralist' Does not relativist come pretty close to opportunist? Humanism is not just a philosophy. It's also a way of living. _________________________ above all shadows rides the sun (JRRT)
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#177401 - 06/15/08 07:57 AM Re: Need some terms [Re: shawnee6400]
Faldage Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 11596	Originally Posted By: shawnee6400 whose morality seems to be based on the legal system and that which is generally acceptable in society? Given these qualifications I might suggest the term "strawman" but since I object to this sort of back-handed definition in others I won't. I believe that human moral codes are a natural result of the evolution of a successful social species.
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