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#176751 - 05/08/08 11:20 PM this question begs asking
tsuwm tsuwm Carpal Tunnel Registered: 04/03/00 Posts: 8731 Loc: this too shall pass	so, to beg the question is, likely, to corrupt an old phrase. but tonight I heard a sports guy say, "the question.. begs asking" (2100 ghits). is this an improvement, linguistically speaking?
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#176757 - 05/09/08 06:34 AM Re: this question begs asking [Re: tsuwm]
Faldage Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 11596	I suppose it might be an improvement, linguistically speaking, if the peevologists don't pule and micturate about it. I wouldn't be competent to predict that. It seems to me that def. 2 in the AHD definition of beg fits this usage pretty well, however def. 3a seems to fit the peevebane usage. But then I think water is wet, so who am I to judge?
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#176762 - 05/09/08 08:11 AM Re: this question begs asking [Re: Faldage]
etaoin etaoin Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/24/02 Posts: 6097 Loc: Vermont	yeah, it seems to get closer to the way that people use the phrase thesedays.
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#176771 - 05/09/08 11:04 AM Re: this question begs asking [Re: etaoin]
dalehileman dalehileman veteran Registered: 07/10/05 Posts: 1417 Loc: Apple Valley, CA, USA	tsu, back when I was a prescriptivist I was especially appalled at the "new" mening of "begging a question" Your question about "begs asking" begs asking, what's the term for a corruption of a corruption _________________________ dalehileman
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#176798 - 05/09/08 10:41 PM Re: this question begs asking [Re: dalehileman]
The Pook The Pook old hand Registered: 02/20/08 Posts: 707 Loc: Tasmania	Originally Posted By: dalehileman what's the term for a corruption of a corruption Well, if it corrupts the corruption by bringing it back to the original uncorrupt state, then it would be called 'correction' or 'purification'. But if it corrupts it further or in another direction, then... it would be called politics.
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#176808 - 05/10/08 01:11 AM Re: this question begs asking [Re: tsuwm]
morphememedley morphememedley member Registered: 01/16/08 Posts: 137	I kind of like it, although I'm unemcumbered by contextual details. I guess getting liked helps a word usage or a phrase usage make it. The site spell checker redlined unemcumbered and threw me into doubt.
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#176810 - 05/10/08 07:50 AM Re: this question begs asking [Re: morphememedley]
The Pook The Pook old hand Registered: 02/20/08 Posts: 707 Loc: Tasmania	Originally Posted By: morphememedley I kind of like it, although I'm unemcumbered by contextual details. I guess getting liked helps a word usage or a phrase usage make it. The site spell checker redlined unemcumbered and threw me into doubt. So it should have. You've done a typo - it's uneNcumbered isn't it?
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#176812 - 05/10/08 12:13 PM Re: this question begs asking [Re: The Pook]
morphememedley morphememedley member Registered: 01/16/08 Posts: 137	You're mighty right. It's funny how I unwittingly substitute certain characters. I wish I had an application to show me neural tracks.
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#176820 - 05/10/08 05:58 PM Re: this question begs asking [Re: morphememedley]
Faldage Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 11596	It is, indeed, unencumbered.
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#176822 - 05/10/08 09:03 PM Re: this question begs asking [Re: Faldage]
morphememedley morphememedley member Registered: 01/16/08 Posts: 137	When “unencumbered by the thought process”, or barely encumbered by it, my spelling and factual recall are often better. Is there a name for the phenomenon of the first guess's greater probability of being correct?
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