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#173503 - 02/12/08 10:25 PM Base Word vs. Root word (or root)
Bigwig Rabbit Offline
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Among our faculty, there is a casual banter going on about root words Vs. base words. One school of thought is that the two are interchangeable terms. The other group adamantly contends that a base word is one that can stand alone, while a root is a word part that needs some sort of inflectional ending, prefix, suffix, or combination of those in order to be sensible. My thought is that some roots can stand alone, such as flex, while many other roots cannot (like glo as in conglomerate). Is there any consensus here that can lay to rest this most scholarly and magmanimous dispute?
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#173504 - 02/12/08 10:53 PM Re: Base Word vs. Root word (or root) [Re: Bigwig Rabbit]
etaoin Offline
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hmm, I can't glom on to the idea that they're not synonyms. though I suppose someone can draw that distinction.
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#173516 - 02/13/08 07:10 AM Re: Base Word vs. Root word (or root) [Re: Bigwig Rabbit]
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In describing inflected languages, like Latin, Greek, or Sanskrit, a distinction between affixes (pre-, in-, and suffixes) and desinences (grammatical endings) is usually made. The former are usually called derivational morphemes (they change the meaning), and the latter inflectional (they indicate the syntactic relationships between words in a phrase). In the study of morphology, there is a difference between free and bound morphemes: free ones can stand on their own, but bound ones are usually affixes, though some like the rasp in raspberry are not. The problem may be with less inflected languages, like English or Chinese. There a lexeme (aka lexical item, word) like man consists of a single morpheme, though come to think of it the Latin nominative singular vir 'man' has no explicit nominitival desinence, as rosa (i.e., the -a) does). Distinguishing between roots (single morphemes) and bases (root morpheme plus one or more affixes, or compounds) seems like a goodly distinction, though perhaps overkill for English morphology.

[Addendum: More on roots and stems.]


Edited by zmjezhd (02/13/08 09:01 AM)

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#173518 - 02/13/08 07:40 AM Re: Base Word vs. Root word (or root) [Re: Bigwig Rabbit]
BranShea Offline
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Does not base have a double meaning?

1. Serving as or forming a base; "the painter applied a base coat followed by two finishing coats".
3. Of low birth or station (`base' is archaic in this sense); "baseborn wretches with dirty faces"; "of humble (or lowly)
(among other definitions)

While root, even used in a figurative way is so much to the point .
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#173520 - 02/13/08 08:35 AM Re: Base Word vs. Root word (or root) [Re: BranShea]
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Roots are also base, being all covered in dirt and such. Latin radix, radicis, (whence English radish and radical), Greek ριζα (rhiza), and German Wurzel are all cognate: from PIE *wrād- 'root' (also here).
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#173528 - 02/13/08 02:03 PM Re: Base Word vs. Root word (or root) [Re: zmjezhd]
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Yes, I know my roots: radijsjes en wortelen. I know my base too.
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#173530 - 02/13/08 02:18 PM Re: Base Word vs. Root word (or root) [Re: BranShea]
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I know my base too.

All your base are belong to us.

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#173541 - 02/13/08 06:46 PM Re: Base Word vs. Root word (or root) [Re: zmjezhd]
Bigwig Rabbit Offline
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zmjezhd,
Though I had to read your post 4 times to understand it, I declare it the most helpful. The links were quite useful as well. Now I can return to my small pond and be the big fish, dazzling them with my brilliance (as opposed to baffling them).
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#173544 - 02/13/08 07:58 PM Re: ein grundriss der ichsucht [Re: Bigwig Rabbit]
zmjezhd Online   content
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Now I can return to my small pond and be the big fish, dazzling them with my brilliance (as opposed to baffling them).

Thank you. Being a big fish, as well as a lapine bigwig, is a goodlier thing than being a lophalgiac, paleocopric pedant as I.

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#173550 - 02/13/08 09:27 PM Re: ein grundriss der ichsucht [Re: zmjezhd]
Zed Offline
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Awww. but you're such a cute lophalgiac, paleocopric pedant.
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